A bit of trivia. On the return from Sunday's ride (my part of it) I thought I would recheck the so-called "4-mile hill" - have I got nothing better to do you may say! Starting at the very bottom where the road crosses the stream - after about half a mile there is a very slight dip (enough to freewheel for a few yards), then the 'climb' continues until 2,7 miles when it definitely goes downhill. So, "4-mile hill is pure fiction! Does anyone else have any other local myths they wish to dispel? R753